Riporto qui di seguito la spiegazione che č stata data da un "Conquest Rules Arbitrator" (perlomeno penso sia vero)riguardo l'interazione con gli Attachments TAU :
Commander Shadowsun,
Shadowsun's Stealth Cadre,
Gun Drones e
Ambush Platform.
Riporto qui sotto il link :
http://www.cardgamedb.com/forums/index.php...mbush-platform/Riporto qui sotto gli elementi principali ed accorpati della risposta:
A common question is how do some of the tricky Tau attachment effects interact. These include:
Firstly, Deploy (where you must pay) and Put Into Play (where you don't pay) are both subsets of "Enter Play". If an ability checks whether something has "entered play", it doesn't matter if it's been deployed or put into play, both satisfy the "entered play" criteria.
Shadowsun allows you to "put into play" an attachment or Cadre (for free). This includes all physical attachments obviously, but also any units that have an effect that allows them to be "put into play" or "enter play" as an attachment. This includes Cadre - which is named in the effect purely to make it obvious that this is legal, but it needn't have been because its effect allows it to enter play as an attachment (ie allowing it to be either "deployed" or "put into play" as an attachment).
Shadowsun cannot however put Gun Drones into play. Gun Drones can only enter play as an attachment by being "deployed" (ie being paid for). Because "deploy" and "put into play" are mutually exclusive, its effect does not allow it to be put into play as an attachment, which is what Shadowsun is trying to do. Cadre on the other hand specifies it can "enter play" as an attachment, which means it can enter play by either method.
Ambush Platform allows you to "deploy" an attachment. Both Gun Drones and Cadre satisfy that criteria (ie both are allowed to be "deployed" as an attachment), so both may enter play via Ambush Platform's effect. When you deploy either, Ambush Platform's interrupt (the cost reduction) will work on both - an attachment being deployed has been initiated, therefore the cards are now attachments, and it's legal to interrupt it and reduce its cost.If AP's ability had said "target", then it would only work on cards that were physical attachments - because when AP's ability is initiated, it would check that a valid target exists (ie there was a physical attachment in the hand). But it doesn't say target, so no such check needs to be made.
Instead, when their ability is being initiated, it checks that it can (in AP's case) deploy an attachment. Because Cadre/Gun Drones each have a "permission" which allows them to be deployed as attachments, then it's legal for AP's ability to initiate because it's clear that after AP's effect is resolved (in step 6 of the Initiate Ability process), the game state will have changed by an attachment being deployed. So, when you get to step 6, you may choose Cadre/Gun Drones to deploy, because their "permissions" allow it.A technical aside:
If Shadowsun or Ambush Platform's ability had said "target", then it would only work on cards that were physical attachments - because when their ability is initiated, it would check that a valid target exists (ie there was a physical attachment in the hand), and that target would need to be chosen in step 5, before the effect resolved. But it doesn't say target, so no such check needs to be made.
Instead, when their ability is being initiated, it checks that it can (in AP's case) deploy an attachment. Because Cadre/Gun Drones each have a "permission" which allows them to be deployed as attachments, then it's legal for AP's ability to initiate because it's clear that after AP's effect is resolved (in step 6 of the Initiate Ability process), the game state will have changed by an attachment being deployed. So, when you get to step 6, you may choose Cadre/Gun Drones to deploy, because their "permissions" allow it.
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Lastly, remember that Cadre and Gun Drone are not attachments when they're in your hand or discard pile. They're still units. They only become attachments at the point the process initiates for them to enter play as such. Therefore for:
Earth Caste Technician: "After this unit enters play, search the top 6 cards of your deck for an attachment or Drone card. ..."
ECT does not find Cadre. It does find Gun Drones however - not because it's an attachment, but because it has the Drone trait
Se ho capito bene,con
Ambush Platform ho la possibilitā di schierare anche
Gun Drones e pagarli anche 1 in meno per l'Interrupt giusto?
Non mi č tanto chiara la parte che ho evidenziato in
arancione,se qualcuno riesce a spiegarmela meglio ed in italiano ha la mia gratitudine,anche perchč penso che sia una delle prime volte che si entra nei tecnicismi del gioco.
